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Ken Miller
post May 30 2007, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ May 30 2007, 10:59 AM) *
Here's the ad

I hope it works this time.

I did have that planet projector drum on my first Model A projector, but I traded that projector in a deal with Steve Pielock for the fancier "Deluxe" model. I have lamented giving up that planet drum ever since. What I got in its place is the equitorial grid projector, but for now I have packed that away for safety.

I saw your posts on the Peerless projector, but I don't have any familiarity with that one.
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charles jones
post Jun 10 2007, 05:39 PM
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Anyone ever seen this one?

Can't figure out how the planet projectors would have worked!


(The name and ad in the following post)

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charles jones
post Jun 10 2007, 05:40 PM
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Here is the ad for this Japanese planetarium - circa 1960
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post Jun 10 2007, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Jun 10 2007, 11:40 PM) *
Here is the ad for this Japanese planetarium - circa 1960


we were just saying, wheres all the old Japanese obscure models, where'd you get this ad chuck, i LOVE those pod lights, they look like aircraft lights or something.. i'll take a type 3! gare
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post Jun 10 2007, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(mrgare5050 @ Jun 10 2007, 05:13 PM) *
we were just saying, wheres all the old Japanese obscure models, where'd you get this ad chuck, i LOVE those pod lights, they look like aircraft lights or something.. i'll take a type 3! gare


When I was younger I collected all this stuff. The reason I still have it, my wife hasn't found it yet to throught it out!

I have not idea any details of this projector, the parts, the projectors, anything. I never heard of Kowa since, but they may still be around.

The ad doesn't mention anything about planetary motion. I think the projectors may have been manually set. And while the ad mentions other projector sizes, my guess is this is the only one built at the time of the ad. Just a guess!

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post Jun 11 2007, 04:28 AM
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what what a world famous 'prominar' lense is/was? g
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Ron Walker
post Jun 12 2007, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Jun 10 2007, 04:39 PM) *
Anyone ever seen this one?

Can't figure out how the planet projectors would have worked!
(The name and ad in the following post)

Charles


Never saw that one Charles. Looks like they copied the small Zeiss and kind of mixed it with the big one. I love it! (IMG:http://www.observatorycentral.com/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Keep posting these. (IMG:http://www.observatorycentral.com/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 1 2007, 05:36 PM
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wow look at this on dome-l - right up our alley - and even ash has trouble wiring!


The tiny Wolff Planetarium in Cincinnati, Ohio is up and running again
after a complete renovation. This 18-seat planetarium, built in 1950
features an original Spitz A-1 projector and a tape deck with the "Blue
Danube Waltz" cued up. Wolff is owned and operated by the City of
Cincinnati Park Board who recently put forth funds to renovate the
building and send the machine to Ash Enterprises for a tune up.
I am sad to say that Ash did a sub-par job. In fact they took a
working machine and returned an improperly wired machine that broke in
10 minutes. One of our volunteers had to fix it prior to the grand
opening last weekend. I'd be happy to hear that this is an isolated
incident with Ash - if any of you have had experiences (or actually
work for them). How can you mess up such a simple planetarium?
But we are all very excited to have the old Spitz shining for the
general public again. Hearing a live star show and the intimate nature
of the dome is wonderful. We understand what a rare treat it is and
hope it will continue for years to come.

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post Jul 2 2007, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(mrgare5050 @ Jul 1 2007, 04:36 PM) *
wow look at this on dome-l - right up our alley - and even ash has trouble wiring!
The tiny Wolff Planetarium in Cincinnati, Ohio is up and running again
after a complete renovation. This 18-seat planetarium, built in 1950
features an original Spitz A-1 projector and a tape deck with the "Blue
Danube Waltz" cued up. Wolff is owned and operated by the City of
Cincinnati Park Board who recently put forth funds to renovate the
building and send the machine to Ash Enterprises for a tune up.
I am sad to say that Ash did a sub-par job. In fact they took a
working machine and returned an improperly wired machine that broke in
10 minutes. One of our volunteers had to fix it prior to the grand
opening last weekend. I'd be happy to hear that this is an isolated
incident with Ash - if any of you have had experiences (or actually
work for them). How can you mess up such a simple planetarium?
But we are all very excited to have the old Spitz shining for the
general public again. Hearing a live star show and the intimate nature
of the dome is wonderful. We understand what a rare treat it is and
hope it will continue for years to come.


I invited Mr Regas over here to join us. I think he will find the kind of support he needs to keep his A-1 up and running and perhaps even improve his sky projection with the results of some of our tests.
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post Jul 2 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Jun 10 2007, 04:39 PM) *
Anyone ever seen this one?

Can't figure out how the planet projectors would have worked!
(The name and ad in the following post)

Charles


This must be a picture of the Model One as the fine print states that that projector does NOT have annual motion of the planets, thus they are manually set. Very much like two of the baby Zeiss machines back to back.
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post Jul 6 2007, 07:52 PM
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Just for a laugh!

OK this is wierd but I ran across a picture from several years ago from my magic act. I wanted to do the old sword box trick with a different look.

Guess what I came up with? Where could I have gotten an idea for this shape box?

Charles
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post Jul 7 2007, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Jul 6 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Just for a laugh!

OK this is wierd but I ran across a picture from several years ago from my magic act. I wanted to do the old sword box trick with a different look.

Guess what I came up with? Where could I have gotten an idea for this shape box?

Charles


Ye Olde Deodec strikes again! (IMG:http://www.observatorycentral.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 7 2007, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(Ron Walker @ Jul 7 2007, 03:38 PM) *


i dont think we can stress enough, if i have my facts straight ... that EINSTEIN suggested to ARMAND that he use this shape?


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post Jul 7 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(mrgare5050 @ Jul 7 2007, 08:58 AM) *
i dont think we can stress enough, if i have my facts straight ... that EINSTEIN suggested to ARMAND that he use this shape?
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That's what I heard. (IMG:http://www.observatorycentral.com/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 7 2007, 10:21 AM
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i see on DOME L they are arguing about mr HARE, i met him at sudekum in the late 90's, you cant critize somebody like him, like steven pielock he is a national treasure.
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post Jul 7 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(mrgare5050 @ Jul 7 2007, 09:21 AM) *
i see on DOME L they are arguing about mr HARE, i met him at sudekum in the late 90's, you cant critize somebody like him, like steven pielock he is a national treasure.


I have a hard time believing that they did something wrong myself. I'm guessing that something came loose during the shipping back of the projector. The fact that it worked for ten minutes before it went out would tend to support that.

Like I said before, I invited him over to talk with us as I'm sure we can help him with his problem(s).
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charles jones
post Sep 19 2007, 07:05 AM
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Does anyone know about this company?

Notice that the star globes are only hemispheres. They must use lamp displacement to bring the sky together.
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Sep 19 2007, 06:05 AM) *
Does anyone know about this company?

Notice that the star globes are only hemispheres. They must use lamp displacement to bring the sky together.


Yes that's a projector made in France that has been around for a while. They went with the classic design by putting the planet projectors between the two star hemispheres which, as I've said, is probably the best way to go.

From the instruction book you can see the bulb mounted above the flat plate at the bottom of the hemisphere which has been removed.

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The support for the lamp has an adjustment for vertical movement as you can see from this picture of the unit removed.

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To get an idea of size, the star globe is 15.5 inches in diameter, so it looks like the space between hemispheres is about 8 inches.
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post Sep 20 2007, 04:57 AM
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Is there any projector you don't have some knowledge of? How did you get ahold of a manual for this?

It appears from the lamp that there is no artificial horizon and merely uses the shroud around the projector to prevent stars from projecting below the horizon.
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post Sep 20 2007, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(charles jones @ Sep 20 2007, 03:57 AM) *
Is there any projector you don't have some knowledge of? How did you get ahold of a manual for this?

It appears from the lamp that there is no artificial horizon and merely uses the shroud around the projector to prevent stars from projecting below the horizon.


I'm sure there are a lot of projectors out there I have no knowledge of. Not that I'm not constantly trying to find out as much as I can. As people find out about my affliction, they have offered, and I have accepted every offer, to send information about any and all things planetaria. I do believe that this particular manual was downloaded from the company website.

The whole idea behind this forum and the HPA is to provide a clearinghouse as well as a place to store any and all information about this affliction. Hopefully it has already been a small help to some and eventually a place where anyone can find an answer to anything relating to planetariums.

Your assumption about no artificial horizon within the star globe is correct. Also, the projector does not appear to provide for projection the procession of the stars. The planet projectors are plug in units that connect to a plate tilted 23.5 degrees to the central axis very reminiscent of the system employed on the Spitz A1.

Now, have you ever heard of the "Gambato" projector?

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