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 Mar 25 2007, 07:50 PM
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 Interstellar Medium  Group: Members Joined: 7-June 06 Posts: 74 From: San Luis Potosi, SLP México  |
Well Honestly I say this new board is not a dream but more like a
 NIGHTMARE I was trying to change to a more moderate skin where I can see the letters in dark on light background but did not find it anywhere Maybe I am getting stupid or ... Well I tried to get used to this new forum but I just want to say I AM DEFINETIVELY OUT OF HERE 
-------------------- saludos Rainer
Hermitage Observatory Losmandy G11 Tak FS-78 630mm------------->" The Guider " Tak Sky 90 500mm ----------->" The Traveller " Tak TOA 130S 1000mm------->" The Skinny " Tak Mewlon 250S 3000mm---->" The Boiler " San Luis Potosi, SLP North 22° West 101° México |
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Mar 25 2007, 07:57 PM
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 President, CAS Group: Moderators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,554 From: Albemarle County, Virginia 
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Sorry you feel that way, Rainer, really I am. I had lobbied for a "Night Vision" friendly red shades version of the skin, but it turns out that having more than 1 skin option (though it would have been unique) makes for MUCH more work for the admin team. If the alternate skin has any errors in it, then the forum experience for newcomers is flawed and not their best work. It's like showing dinner guests at your house an astrophoto that has stars that aren't round. You'd be embarrased that guests aren't seeing your best work. Same with skins it seems.
I hope you change your mind and return, your experience with your observatory is of great interest to others entering this field. You have friends here! Come back when you can! Saludos, amigo! Rich -------------------- President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
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Mar 25 2007, 08:06 PM
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 Planet Group: Root Admin Joined: 2-November 06 Posts: 824 From: Andover, MN 
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QUOTE(rsbfoto @ Mar 25 2007, 08:50 PM)  Well Honestly I say this new board is not a dream but more like a NIGHTMARE I was trying to change to a more moderate skin where I can see the letters in dark on light background but did not find it anywhere Maybe I am getting stupid or ... Well I tried to get used to this new forum but I just want to say I AM DEFINETIVELY OUT OF HERE Rainer, It would be very helpful if you could share more about the problems that you're having. On my monitor the forum is very easy to read and the print shows up very nicely. Is it possible that you're contrast on your monitor is set too low? What problem are you running into? -------------------- Domed 12/17/2006
12.5" RCOS Telescope Paramount ME Mount Pilot's Cross Observatory  45° 15'48.85"N, 93° 21'30.91"W Silently one by one, in the infinite meadows of heaven Blossomed the lovely stars, the forget-me-nots of the angels. -Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882) |
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Mar 25 2007, 09:31 PM
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 Just a State of Mind! Group: Administrators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,340 From: Loves Park, Il.
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I understand we have some tweaking of colors to do here, but overall, I have no problems reading anything here on any of my 3 computers and a Laptop...
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Mar 26 2007, 10:00 AM
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 Interstellar Medium Group: Members Joined: 20-June 06 Posts: 98 From: Basking Ridge, NJ |
Funny, I was going to repsond in the previous thread where I asked if this was the final skin but that thread was locked for whatever reason.
I was asked what I thought was "dim" and maybe it could be tweaked. I guess I'm not a big fan of a montone palette, such as we have here, grey on grey. I tend to find that i either miss things or have to hunt for new items as opposed to them standing out. Should I assume that the grey hue was chosen to preserve dark adaptation? Regardless, this is a democratic forum and the majority rules (I hope), so it's not a big deal. I tend to adapt pretty well most of the time. -------------------- There's always another bus!
Mike FS102-FC76-FC-60 C8 - Comet Catcher GM8 - LXD55 402ME-D70-DSI Pro |
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Mar 26 2007, 03:10 PM
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Just a State of Mind! Group: Administrators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,340 From: Loves Park, Il.
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QUOTE(mamill @ Mar 26 2007, 10:00 AM) Funny, I was going to repsond in the previous thread where I asked if this was the final skin but that thread was locked for whatever reason. I was asked what I thought was "dim" and maybe it could be tweaked. I guess I'm not a big fan of a montone palette, such as we have here, grey on grey. I tend to find that i either miss things or have to hunt for new items as opposed to them standing out. Should I assume that the grey hue was chosen to preserve dark adaptation? Regardless, this is a democratic forum and the majority rules (I hope), so it's not a big deal. I tend to adapt pretty well most of the time. Sortof... The darker skin is more pleasing to the eye, and yes, helps with the dark adapted eyes (not fully, but mostly). Also, when it comes to skins, many of your brighter ones are OVERWHELMINGLY bright, and some just plain look gawdy.. We did put this and other skins to a vote (Moderator vote), and this one and one other tied.. Based upon that, as well as the comments they left, we choose to use this skin, and continue to tweak it to make it better...  -------------------- |
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Mar 26 2007, 03:18 PM
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Dust Disk Group: Members Joined: 6-June 06 Posts: 181 From: Frederick Maryland |
Well Like Rsbfoto ..
I am having a hard time reading the forum....ACTUALLY a VERY HARD TIME... looked around to see if any other skins were available and did not find any... New format is just a total Bummer to me...... I just do not need a headache from straining my eyes ... Bob G. |
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Mar 26 2007, 03:28 PM
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Planet Group: Root Admin Joined: 2-November 06 Posts: 824 From: Andover, MN
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Boy, all I can figure is you guys must be on older CRT monitors. My flat screen is 2 feet away from where I sit. I'm using 1280 x 1024 resolution which makes for very tiny print. Yet I can see everything on the forum using this skin with ease and no eye strain at all.
Well, if it displays that poorly on the older monitors, then we may need to consider a different or a second skin. -------------------- Domed 12/17/2006
12.5" RCOS Telescope Paramount ME Mount Pilot's Cross Observatory 45° 15'48.85"N, 93° 21'30.91"W Silently one by one, in the infinite meadows of heaven Blossomed the lovely stars, the forget-me-nots of the angels. -Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882) |
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 Mar 26 2007, 03:39 PM
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Interstellar Medium Group: Members Joined: 7-June 06 Posts: 74 From: San Luis Potosi, SLP México |
QUOTE(dbeckstrom @ Mar 26 2007, 03:28 PM) Boy, all I can figure is you guys must be on older CRT monitors. My flat screen is 2 feet away from where I sit. I'm using 1280 x 1024 resolution which makes for very tiny print. Yet I can see everything on the forum using this skin with ease and no eye strain at all. Well, if it displays that poorly on the older monitors, then we may need to consider a different or a second skin. DELETED |
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Mar 26 2007, 03:41 PM
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Just a State of Mind! Group: Administrators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,340 From: Loves Park, Il.
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I was still thinking of lightening the background a bit more, and perhaps (at least to test), go with a dark font...
Other than that, we can change the font to something with a touch of yellow in it (just a touch) to bring it out more... But like you, I have no problems seeing anything... And as I stated earlier, thats on 3 separate computers and a laptop (Which are notorious for bad screens) with a new Flatscreen, and old flatscreen, and a 17" CRT thats about 5 years old... -------------------- |
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Mar 26 2007, 04:29 PM
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Star Cluster Group: Moderators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,530 From: Long Lake, NY
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I do not know if this will help or not....I just powered up my CRT 17" monitor and everything was extremely dark. MUCH more so than on the flat screen I'm using. So, I opened the nVidia panel for the CRT and adjusted the brightness. It not only improved the OC, but the sreen saver on the CRT is much better now also.
So, IF what you see is dark, to the point you cannot find the reply/quote buttons, and there is not a defintitive difference between each post, I'd suggest right cliking on the desktop, then on ".....display", open the color correction tab and slide the brightness slider to increase. Depending on your PC config, the directions may differ.... Steve |
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Mar 26 2007, 04:59 PM
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Just a State of Mind! Group: Administrators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,340 From: Loves Park, Il.
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Also download "Adobe Gamma" and do a monitor calibration... BIG DIFFERENCE!
Use the chart below, The PRIMARY colors are Red, Green and Blue.. The center where they overlap should be PURE WHITE. If you're seeing a shade of gray or the colors look muted, then your monitor needs adjustment. 
colorcir.png ( 2.69k )
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Mar 26 2007, 06:04 PM
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 Gare Group: Members Joined: 14-June 06 Posts: 3,337 From: gallatin tenn |
i REALLY dig the meteor flashing dudes, and the observatory under construction is dyno-mite! The tone should be dim, observatorys are dim places .. and the skins? i never met skin i didnt like
gare, master of inane yet positive feedback (attempting also to rise beyond dusk disk) ps.. wheres my shirt!!
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Mar 26 2007, 08:50 PM
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 Galaxy Super Cluster Group: Moderators Joined: 5-June 06 Posts: 5,153 From: Arizona |
If your having a really hard time reading the forum just go to the bottom of the page and hit the "Lo-Fi" button.
You will then get black letters on a white background which is extremely easy to read. True, you can't do a lot of other things, but it will at least allow anyone with any problems reading this skin to be able to read any other posts. -------------------- Ron Walker
Orion 11" XLT EQ-G ~ Orion 102mm Mak Burgess 38mm ~ Stratus 21mm and 13mm Dyanscope 4" (1950's vintage) Nikon F 35mm ~ Canon 300D Planetaria: Goto E-5 (Viewlex) ~ Spitz A3P ~ Minolta/Viewlex Series II B |
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Mar 26 2007, 08:55 PM
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Star Cluster Group: Moderators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,530 From: Long Lake, NY
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Cool....Never knew that was there!
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Mar 26 2007, 09:00 PM
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Galaxy Super Cluster Group: Moderators Joined: 5-June 06 Posts: 5,153 From: Arizona |
This skin is unbelievably complex and I'm finding new thing every time I push something. Now if I could only remember for more then five minutes what I pushed and what it did, I'd be home free.
-------------------- Ron Walker
Orion 11" XLT EQ-G ~ Orion 102mm Mak Burgess 38mm ~ Stratus 21mm and 13mm Dyanscope 4" (1950's vintage) Nikon F 35mm ~ Canon 300D Planetaria: Goto E-5 (Viewlex) ~ Spitz A3P ~ Minolta/Viewlex Series II B |
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Mar 26 2007, 09:04 PM
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Just a State of Mind! Group: Administrators Joined: 4-June 06 Posts: 1,340 From: Loves Park, Il.
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At the top of each thread, look for the "Options" pull down menu. In there you can do "Print this topic" where it brings the whole topic into a formatted page for printing. MUCH easier to read there as well..
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Mar 27 2007, 11:38 AM
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Dust Disk Group: Members Joined: 6-June 06 Posts: 181 From: Frederick Maryland |
Well I now have everything set to the daylight BLUE skin and it makes all the difference in the world...took a little time to find out how to do it (especially since I could not read the original skin all that well.. LOL Honestly I have no idea how old my monitor is as its an old one I pulled out of the garage a few days ago after my not too old flat screen monitor went tits up and died... Anyway everything is not just fine... Bob G. |
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Mar 27 2007, 01:10 PM
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Galaxy Super Cluster Group: Moderators Joined: 5-June 06 Posts: 5,153 From: Arizona |
I want to thank Dave and Neo for all their hard work in getting this forum up and especially for adding this Blue Sky skin. While I was able to read the other one, these old eyes really like this one better.
Thanks guys! -------------------- Ron Walker
Orion 11" XLT EQ-G ~ Orion 102mm Mak Burgess 38mm ~ Stratus 21mm and 13mm Dyanscope 4" (1950's vintage) Nikon F 35mm ~ Canon 300D Planetaria: Goto E-5 (Viewlex) ~ Spitz A3P ~ Minolta/Viewlex Series II B |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:37 PM
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 Star Group: Moderators Joined: 3-June 06 Posts: 1,426 From: Fort Ann, NY
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QUOTE(Ron Walker @ Mar 27 2007, 02:10 PM) I want to thank Dave and Neo for all their hard work in getting this forum up and especially for adding this Blue Sky skin. While I was able to read the other one, these old eyes really like this one better. Thanks guys! Everything Ron just said and more! My eyes are really enjoying the new Blue Skies skin. I was able to see with the Dark Nights skin too, but this one is making things so much more enjoyable for my eyes. Hope my age has nothing to do with this! This site just keeps getting better & better each day. Please don't think all the hard work & time involved has gone unnoticed! 
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6" f/5 Star Hoc Newtonian - "Amanda" Orion Astroview w/ dual drives 10x50 Binocs Proud owner of an Explora-Dome! (NSO) Northern Skies Observatory - Fort Ann, N.Y. |
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